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2023-07-26 House Oversight UAP Hearing

Event26 July 2023

House Oversight subcommittee hearing on UAPs at which David Grusch, David Fravor and Ryan Graves testified under oath; Grusch testified that programs were funded through contractor IR&D and misappropriated funds.

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2023-07-26 House Oversight UAP Hearing

On 26 July 2023 a House Oversight subcommittee held the first congressional hearing at which David Grusch testified under oath, following his June 2023 disclosure [S1].

The funding exchange

Asked whether U.S. corporations were overcharging the government so that the extra money went to hidden programs, Grusch answered "Correct, through something called IR&D". Asked how such a program is funded, he said "misappropriation of funds and self-fund", and offered details in closed session [S1]. This is Grusch's sworn claim, not a finding. For context: independent research and development (IR&D) is a regulated contractor cost. It is allowable under DFARS 231.205-18, and contractors must report their projects to DTIC [S2].

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[S1] "Hearing transcript HHRG-118-GO06" (congress.gov) / https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/116282/documents/HHRG-118-GO06-Transcript-20230726.pdf / Accessed 2026-09-18 / The IR&D and "misappropriation of funds and self-fund" exchange. [S2] Full research report

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  1. Hearing transcript HHRG-118-GO06, 26 July 2023 — https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/116282/documents/HHRG-118-GO06-Transcript-20230726.pdfopen

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